Nosler ABLR vs Hornady ELDx vs Federal Terminal Ascent reviews/experience? One thing the 300 Win mag has going for it is it will cycle a bit more smoothly on average. I think the mid range to heavy weight bullet's in each cartridge work best. If you are … But for new hunters: 308, every damn day of the week. have found it to be very useful and enlightening. Latest. elk rifle season as its my first. The original conversation I can’t recall, but I do remember we got onto the subject of hunting caribou. I am about to have it re-barreled and want to re-chamber to either 7 Mag or 300 Win Mag. 180 AB with 75.0g RL-22 has worked wonders in 2 separate 300WM for me. My elk rifle is a .338. After much back and forth, I decided on the 300 RUM. on the hook. Ballistically, the .300 Wby. If recoil and price don’t bother you much, getting the 300 RUM ammo is still a great choice. I use it for hunting Whitetail out to about 500 yards as well as recreational target shooting. Head to Head: .300 Win. As you mention the 300 RUM I recently asked about the the new "7's" such as the 7WSM and 7 RUM and didn't get any input on those two rounds. Aug 14, 2019 #1 Looking for a new elk gun that will give me some distance. Joined Feb 9, 2014 Messages 25 Location Rocky Mountain House, AB. 300 PRC and .300 Win Mag factory loads generally have similar muzzle velocities, but the 300 PRC shoots a heavier bullet with a higher BC. I wish Non- Lead Bullets for Elk?, by Dave, Elk Hunting Tips.Net Did anyone else see that?) I haven't weighed the rifle/optics yet, but with a 3-9x40 Leupold I'd say it is around 9lbs.I hunt western Colorado where the terrain is nasty, steep and the weather changes every 10 minutes. It will also handle 200gr bullet's but I don't think as ell as the 300 magnums. Hunted at most distances from 50 yards to over 1000 with most kills being from 350 to 800 yards. I used to hunt with a .308, (Remington 800 VLS, heavy barrel, all the goodies) but at just shy of 15 pounds I got tired of carrying it through the woods. Christensen Arms 300 Win Mag vs 300 RUM. with a Vortex 6x24 viper PST Scope. The phone rang on a snowy Saturday afternoon in early 2000, and upon answering I found my dad – Ol’ Grumpy Pants – on the other end of the line. I personally don't consider extreme long range fair to the game. This is comparing 225 grain 338s vs 180 grain 300s. success to your website and your products. The 300 RUM shoots nearly as flat as a.270, but carries much more energy. I know the pictures a moose but it is the biggest bodied moose I have seen in over 20 years hunting the beast! by 13 percent and the Win. If you feel that the largest animals are better served with a larger bore altogether, then it becomes nearly a dead heat between the two cartridges. My question is, how much more recoil is there between the Win Mag and RUM? … It's more effective out to longer ranges and IS NOT TOO MUCH FOR DEER. ", 7mm Remington Magnum, by Dean It’s still something to think about even if you do have a lot of experience. It gave the same result. Long range hunters and experienced hunters taking Elk and Moose at longer ranges may appreciate and require the better terminal performance of the 300 Win Mag. Jul 24, 2014 #1 L. LRH ELKAHOLIC Active Member. I think the newer TTSX has more advantages. 300 PRC and .300 Win Mag factory loads generally have similar muzzle velocities, but the 300 PRC shoots a heavier bullet with a higher BC. Accuracy is going to be a lot more about the specific gun than the caliber. Shooting game past 400 yards really isn't a good idea for anyone. Hunting in Western Montana, by Mike A. 300 Win Mag vs 308. Hunted at most distances from 50 yards to over 1000 with most kills being from 350 to 800 yards. Hunting. I got several useful tips from you, and your site. Many current rifles chambered in .300 Ultra Mag, .300 WSM, and other short fats resist accepting more than two cartridges in the magazine — but the .300 Wby. fits three like sophisticated sardines and feeds them out just as slick. I did not draw a tag for Missouri breaks where I have hunted in the past. We shot and compared three popular options to help you decide on the best elk cartridge for your style of hunting. I shot both and couldn’t tell the difference in felt recoil. The 7mm RUM is really only a good option if you are shooting ultra long range. Would you rather have a 308 win with a 22 inch barrel or a 300 win mag with a 26 inch barrel. Is there anyone that has hunted in any of these units and can give me some friendly advice? I've hunted and killed many elk with a .270 Win. I also know a guy who kills elk with a 243. Not surprisingly, there are some significant differences in the ballistics of the three cartridges. I think any High Velocity round needs these kinds of bullets. by Randy B I have a .300 Win Mag and it's an excellent elk rifle, up to and including long range shots pushing the limits of most hunters' ability. How often should I use my cow call?, I am new to the sport of bow hunting elk and my question is how often should I use my cow calls? The rifle build I spoke with you about as of right now will be a 300 rum but I am still wondering if a 300 Norma would be better. It's the same also around my house in … Mag., .300 WSM, and .30-06 Springfield. Since the recoil for the 300 Ultra is about the same as a 338 Win Mag and many would argue the 338 is a more versatile cartridge, why do you think so many choose the 300 … That means it can throw the same size bullets about 200 fps faster than the Win. ", Travis (WI), "I just wanted to say thank you for your site, and helpful emails! elk rifle season as its my first. ", Travis (WI), "I just wanted to say thank you for your site, and helpful emails! could go on forever here, I just get so excited talking about elk and I don't A 300 Win Mag firing a 210 Berger VLD hunting bullet at 2900 fps will have enough energy to kill a deer at past 1200 yards and an elk at just past 900 yards. Elk or Venison Steaks Grilled to Perfection, Spice-Crusted Grilled Venison Roast Recipe. (Bealeton, Va). My SIL used the same bullet in my 338 Federal for a close up shot on a mule deer. Like over 400 yards. Any success in Unit 14?, by: Dave (MI), "I'm planning on doing a DIY in Unit 14 for 2012...", Bugle in Herd bulls, by Swiltbank How is the elk hunting in unit 30A in Idaho? JavaScript is disabled. of energy. Mag. Christensen Arms 300 Win Mag vs 300 RUM. I did use the 180 NAB, but in a 338 RUM, started out right at 3500fps. New Mexico Unit 49, by Silas (Los Alamos, NM). Plus, given the primary importance of bullet placement, and assuming the shooters ability to achieve that, both the 30-06 and .308 are also adequate elk calibers 99% of the time. USA) I use my Liberty Ruger M77, 7mm Rem. The fact that the .300 RUM has a beltless case is something of an advantage when it comes to reliable feeding. It's more effective out to longer ranges and IS NOT TOO MUCH FOR DEER. Some do like the very fast speeds, but really, anything over 3000fps....doubtful any of us could tell any difference, ha. by Craig (Florida) "Here are some of the items I use on my DIY hunts in the CO backcountry...". We shot and compared three popular options to help you decide on the best elk cartridge for your style of hunting. I'm comfortable shooting out to 450 yards (too long for a typical hunting shot), and if in some un-foreseen situation I need to take a shot at that distance, I'm not going to question if my caliber is capable or not. SUBSCRIBE . I have to special order mine through a FFL friend of mine. In choosing between the 300 Ultra Mag vs 300 Win Mag, our choice is the 300 Win Mag because it has less recoil, more affordable, has more factory match loads, and offers more available load data than the 300 Remington Ultra Magnum. Jordan, MT: "Your website is a great help! blog) by 20 percent. (Garrison, MT)~ What do you ballistics guys think about the use of non-lead bullets for elk? I (which you can read all about on this 7mm vs. 300 Win. The .300 Win. Thread starter leclairk; Start date Aug 14, 2019; leclairk. He killed a big cow a tad over 440yds with it, blew chunks out the other side, he said. More. Elk and Deer Hunting and Mountain Bikes, by Skip Shepherd (Tucson, AZ)~ At 67 I am thinking a lot about investing in a mountain bike to get back into remote areas... Solo archery hunting -- tips for calling/set up?, by Idaho Steve In choosing between the 300 Ultra Mag vs 300 Win Mag, our choice is the 300 Win Mag because it has less recoil, more affordable, has more factory match loads, and offers more available load data than the 300 Remington Ultra Magnum. gives an advantage in bullet weight. No meat damage. Ribs to under hide near flank 225 yards. Happy with it so far on a handful of animals I have taken. The .300 Winchester Magnum is an excellent long range cartridge and Hornady’s Precision Hunter line contains an outstanding .300 Win Mag ammo option for hunters looking to squeeze every bit of long range performance out of the cartridge. Looking for a new elk gun that will give me some distance. More Guns. After much back and forth, I decided on the 300 RUM. Go with the .300 win mag, it's just a better overall caliber, like you said bigger bullet, more knock down power. At the same time, the .300 RUM uses a rebated rim case while the .300 Win Mag does not. The recoil is managable for me, but I'm 6'03", 280lbs. (Helena, MT. How? Try either H4831 or H1000 for either bullet pick the one that shoots best and run with it... U really cant go wrong with either...…. Additionally, the .300 RUM has a minimally tapered beltless case with a 30 degree shoulder. The problem come's in that with those heavy bullet's rcoil also goes up but that's the price yu pay. First Elk Hunt First Elk Hunt, by Big "R" (NM). 300 Win Mag vs 338 Lapua vs 338 Win Mag: Picking The Right Heavy Hitter. I have no experience with a 300 mag but have a thought on bullet's for cartridges anyway. Have a ball though, Life is Short! The .300 Norma Magnum is also another cartridge which offers some excellent long-range ballistics, and has grabbed the attention of the U.S. Army. Re: 7mm STW vs 300 WBY Mag for long range elk/moose It's really a horse apiece. The 300 RUM shoots nearly as flat as a .270, but carries much more energy. an excellent guide to approaching elk hunting. First Elk!, by Tater (Sheridan, Arkansas) I took the advice I received from this website and was successful…I wanted to Thank You and Your Forum and the folks that share on here for the knowledge and information that helped me find an elk I was quite happy with. Not too light, but a 180 mono in a 300 Mag is flat shooting, hits hard, and likely to completely penetrate the marjority of shots! Neither is going to be a dream to shoot unless you go with a heavy bench weight rig. He killed a big cow a tad over 440yds with it, blew chunks out the other side, he said. Latest. It's easy to do. Joined Sep 4, 2014 Messages 2,706 Location Timberville, VA. Of your choices the .338 is the one that doesn't fit just because you mentioned longer shots. I have also tested a variety of 30 cals, 300 win mag, 300 rum, 30-378, 30 Lapua, and so on. by Rick Freeman If it is a Premium, its sixes for me. need bow to none: 180-grain bullets exit the muzzle at 3,200 fps or more and carry over 4,000 ft.-lbs. Having to start over and try western Montana. The drawbacks... ammo is fairly difficult to find. The original conversation I can’t recall, but I do remember we got onto the subject of hunting caribou. the Monos are long, but many heavier c&c bullets are too, and they "do" recoil more. September 27, 2019. IIRC, this is the flour and sugar for a Kimber Classic safe resident. Long range hunters and experienced hunters taking Elk and Moose at longer ranges may appreciate and require the better terminal performance of the 300 Win Mag. Therefore, 300 PRC has a slightly flatter trajectory, a little more retained energy, less wind drift, and somewhat more recoil than the 300 Win Mag. The larger 300s, Rum and 30-378 will only provide more power at extreme long range. I have just never been thrilled by the 7mm Rem Mag. I think the newer TTSX has more advantages. By Ron Spomer. : I have a 30 30 with 170 grain round nose bullet. So far, I'm in love with this rifle. But I doubt the folks who use the lighter bullets are being recoil conscious, ha. thank you for the great tips on hunting elk. I have a 300 and 7mm WSM I use occasionally and although they work well, both needed a bit of tweaking in the feed rails to feed properly. It is probably a bigger factor in selecting between one over the other for younger or inexperienced shooters. Where to hunt in Az unit 3B?, by Cliffjumper (Tucson, Az) ~ I got a late bull muzzle loader hunt in Arizona unit 3b. I shot a heavy Aoudad sheep at 250 or so, and he made one hop and was done. Lots of people complain it kills on both ends but I don't have any problems with the round. 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